TorovenEmasu
So 'Bath Salts' exist as a clever marketing ploy to bring a controlled substance to the marketplace?
Cassie Rodenberg
@Toroven -- Yes, this was a sneaky marketing tactic.
davidkroll
No, Rushil - it's not a euphemism. Yes, Toroven, exactly.
davidkroll
Bora, the term I often see is 'legal highs' although many of the chemicals are no longer legal.
BoraZ
So, how does one tell the kids about these drugs without making them sound harmless and appealing?
Cassie Rodenberg
That's the trick- nicknaming drugs not only makes them sound harmless, but also opens the window for kids to dive under their mom's medicine cabinet to try her ACTUAL bath salts, not the drug.
Rushil Fernandes
Okay, seems to me that this is an American phenomenon. Let's hope it doesn't get to India. Bye folks!
Robin Lloyd
Shaun Kallis on FB: Chances are high that Bath Salts or MDPV, a dopamine re-uptake inhibitor, was not the drug responsible for face attack.
Cassie Rodenberg
Right now, it's hard to determine the drugs involved in the 'face attack' without a toxicology screening.
davidkroll
The officer in the Miami case shouldn't have even speculated on bath salts. Misleading.
Cassie Rodenberg
We can say what may or may not be likely, but above all, it's important to note that drugs do not necessarily cause violence. Often pre-existing mental illnesses are at play. Drugs can augment pre-existing mental illness, but violent behavior usually does not start with a drug. People with schizophrenia, for example, have a much higher likelihood of violence without the addition of drugs
Cassie Rodenberg
@anatolia, I think the street name has caused a general fear for a commonplace household item, which is a shame
ArthurShuey
One can smoke, snort, eat or inject bath salts, right? And the effect level is different with different means of use, so injection is more potent than smoking?
Cassie Rodenberg
@Arthur, with most drugs, injection is more potent and a faster delivery system.
davidkroll
Always best to wait for the toxicology report. But this horrifying case may have the effect that Bora suggests may create an aversion to bath salts use among young people.
Cassie Rodenberg
@david -- I agree. we know too little at this point. It's a good platform to discuss hyping and blaming of drugs
Robin Kellner
Are bath salts 'the drug' addictive?
Cassie Rodenberg
@Robin, there's little science that's been done, however, since the drug is a cathinone, I would say the potential for abuse is there. Stimulants cause subjectively different reactions on users.
davidkroll
Cassie, in all of your recent interviews with substance abusers, have you talked much with folks using bath salts?
Cassie Rodenberg
@david, no, I have not. I think the media has hyped the notion of rampant bath salt use
TorovenEmasu
Another case of uninformed speculation causing a stir of paranoia... Is 'bath salts' a street name, or a merchandising name?
Cassie Rodenberg
@Toroven, 'bath salts' is a street name, along with things like 'White Lightning,' 'Hurricane Charlie' and 'Vanilla Sky'.
Robin Lloyd
So there reallyisn't an increase in the public's use of 'bath salts'?
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ii) Phenylethylamines
There are about 200 synth's in each category...most of those performed by the great Alex 'Shasha' Shulgin.
As quickly as one drug hits the streets and is banned by the DOJ, the resourceful chemists will rearrange a few molecules to produce a similar drug with similar effects which may not fall under the 'analog' laws in the US.
Not many other countries have these laws...yet.
So the resourceful chemist will organise manufacture and/or distribution in countries where the rewards can still be reaped.
On a side note, the Australian Federal government is talking about banning the sale of Acacia (mimosa genus) plants from nurseries around the country.
It is a fairly easy process to extract DMT (Dimethyltryptamine) from the bark of these plants. This produces a 30 min hallucinogenic high when smoked.
The Government seems to have forgotten the large numbers of plants growing in National Parks, reserves and peoples back yards. Mature plants which have a higher conc. of DMT than babies purchased from the local nursery.
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