Live Chat: Zombies and the Chemistry of "Bath Salts," with SA Blogger Cassie Rodenberg

Rodenberg, who blogs about addiction and mental illness for SA, will provide the straight dope on the latest media frenzy over so-called bath salts and people who have been arrested for allegedly eating victims' flesh















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Cassie Rodenberg
Bath salts seem to be the hip-to-talk-about drug of the moment, but they don't deserve to be criminalized more than any other drug.

TorovenEmasu
I always feel regulating something is better than illegalizing. Straight up illegalization only creates criminals.

Robin Lloyd
Cassie what do you think of Bora's q: So, how does one tell the kids about these drugs without making them sound harmless and appealing?

Cassie Rodenberg
They were classified as a Schedule 1 illegal substance back in October, so it's likely that another chemical form will enter the market. This is what happens with most synthetic drugs. they have short life spans because they're made illegal. I think educators should call these what they are--stimulants, and discuss them along with cocaine and methamphetamine. Perpetuating names like 'Hurricane Charlie' only makes them sound more cool and alluring.

Kelly Brennan
So what about the makeup of the drugs makes people go crazy? I've experienced people who were using and literally were acting psychotic.

David Kroll
Chemically, Cassie, isn't a bigger concern the possibility of toxic intermediates in the products from shoddy syntheses?

Cassie Rodenberg
@david, absolutely. There are larger toxic dangers in the creation of these substances that could be promoted.

Cassie Rodenberg
I think discussing how they're marketed is a good thing, but to always call them what they chemically are is important.

Robin Lloyd
OK folks, thanks for participating. I have to shut this chat down in the next minute. Feel free to follow-up with Cassie on Twitter. @cassierodenberg

Robin Lloyd
Thanks, Cassie!

Cassie Rodenberg
Thanks all!



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  1. 1. TopQuark22 12:21 PM 6/13/12

    How am I supposed to join the live chat when you don't even provide a link to it? Sheesh.

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  2. 2. ForMaddenedProphets 10:44 PM 6/13/12

    These type of drugs fall into two basic categories:
    i) Tryptamines
    ii) Phenylethylamines

    There are about 200 synth's in each category...most of those performed by the great Alex 'Shasha' Shulgin.
    As quickly as one drug hits the streets and is banned by the DOJ, the resourceful chemists will rearrange a few molecules to produce a similar drug with similar effects which may not fall under the 'analog' laws in the US.
    Not many other countries have these laws...yet.
    So the resourceful chemist will organise manufacture and/or distribution in countries where the rewards can still be reaped.

    On a side note, the Australian Federal government is talking about banning the sale of Acacia (mimosa genus) plants from nurseries around the country.
    It is a fairly easy process to extract DMT (Dimethyltryptamine) from the bark of these plants. This produces a 30 min hallucinogenic high when smoked.

    The Government seems to have forgotten the large numbers of plants growing in National Parks, reserves and peoples back yards. Mature plants which have a higher conc. of DMT than babies purchased from the local nursery.

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