That opened the door to remote access from the U.S., Butler says: "Once you're sending information 20 kilometers, the fact that you may want to send it 5,000 or 6,000 kilometers is no different, except for bandwidth."
Fermilab had already experimented with remote access for experiments such as CDF at the Tevatron and NuTeV, a neutrino experiment. In the case of CDF, researchers from Italy, Japan, Korea and other countries would take eight-hour shifts monitoring the data from their home institutes, says Fermilab's Kaori Maeshima, who oversaw those remote operations and was tasked four years ago with implementing it for CMS.
If researchers can only participate from CERN, the experiment isn't fully utilizing its resources, Maeshima says. Team members in other countries can take shifts during their daylight hours while their counterparts at CERN are asleep.
Fermilab completed the ROC in fall 2005. It is a small-scale version of the CMS control room at CERN, complete with a 24/7 video link, called "the window to CERN." Control of the experiment is limited to the aboveground CMS detector station. Monitoring the data can take place there, at CERN's remote station or at the ROC.
"What the ROC brings us here at [Fermilab] is a center where we can congregate and be able to easily work with our colleagues at CERN to solve whatever problems we run into as we take data," says David Mason, a Fermilab postdoc who uses the remote center to confirm that data is being processed and transferred in the right way within the LHC Computing Grid. "I can monitor and work with the data from Fermilab as well as I could from CERN," he says.
The same principles apply for other nations taking part in the collaboration. Butler says the CMS team is building a remote station at the DESY lab in Zeuthen, Germany, and has seven or eight other stations planned. The ATLAS collaboration is also making plans to establish remote operations.
"Remote operations [in particle physics] has been around for awhile, but it's never been embraced this early and in quite this depth by anyone," Butler says. "It's an exciting challenge."
Those who can take advantage of the opportunity to relocate to CERN are certainly happy to do so, if Majewski is any indication. Working on the LHC has made the world seem much smaller, she says. She considers the time abroad an added bonus of being at the forefront of particle physics. "I get to spend a year in Europe," she says. "All my friends are very jealous."
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Add CommentTrès bon pour Mme Majewski,
Reply | Report Abuse | Link to thisDon't forget, safety before science.
Its only fun until someone loses a planet.
Got LHCFacts.org?
I think these folks are playing with fire. Remember what happens when you play with fire? Someone usually gets burned. I hope these folks are as smart as they think they are.
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Jtankers, you are a cretin of the highest order... Do you have nothing better to do than spam forums, with your inane ramblings. If I hear you describe, your poster boy, Rossler (a biochemist) as a physicist again, I may have to kill myself out of sheer frustration that a total crackpot like you remains in the genetic pool!!
Reply | Report Abuse | Link to thisThat said I will hugely enjoy it, when you scuttle back to the loony bin once it's demonstrated that you are totally deluded, and the world still exists. That some scientists connected with the LHC have received death threats is no doubt attributable to irresponsible campaigns, from jumped up misfits like yourself, with bizarre delusions of grandeur
Man's technology has exceeded his grasp. - 'The World is not Enough'
Reply | Report Abuse | Link to thisZealous Nobel Prize hungry Physicists are racing each other and stopping at nothing to try to find the supposed 'Higgs Boson'(aka God) Particle, among others, and are risking nothing less than the annihilation of the Earth and all Life in endless experiments hoping to prove a theory when urgent tangible problems face the planet. The European Organization for Nuclear Research(CERN) new Large Hadron Collider(LHC) is the world's most powerful atom smasher that will soon be firing subatomic particles at each other at nearly the speed of light to create Miniature Big Bangs producing Micro Black Holes, Strangelets and other potentially cataclysmic phenomena.
Particle physicists have run out of ideas and are at a dead end forcing them to take reckless chances with more and more powerful and costly machines to create new and never-seen-before, unstable and unknown matter while Astrophysicists, on the other hand, are advancing science and knowledge on a daily basis making new discoveries in these same areas by observing the universe, not experimenting with it and with your life.
The LHC is a dangerous gamble as CERN physicist Alvaro De R�jula in the BBC LHC documentary, 'The Six Billion Dollar Experiment', incredibly admits quote, "Will we find the Higgs particle at the LHC? That, of course, is the question. And the answer is, science is what we do when we don't know what we're doing." And CERN spokesmodel Brian Cox follows with this stunning quote, "the LHC is certainly, by far, the biggest jump into the unknown."
The CERN-LHC website Mainpage itself states: "There are many theories as to what will result from these collisions,..." Again, this is because they truly don't know what's going to happen. They are experimenting with forces they don't understand to obtain results they can't comprehend. If you think like most people do that 'They must know what they're doing' you could not be more wrong. Some people think similarly about medical Dr.s but consider this by way of comparison and example from JAMA: "A recent Institute of Medicine report quoted rates estimating that medical errors kill between 44,000 and 98,000 people a year in US hospitals." The second part of the CERN quote reads "...but what's for sure is that a brave new world of physics will emerge from the new accelerator,..." A molecularly changed or Black Hole consumed Lifeless World? The end of the quote reads "...as knowledge in particle physics goes on to describe the workings of the Universe." These experiments to date have so far produced infinitely more questions than answers but there isn't a particle physicist alive who wouldn't gladly trade his life to glimpse the "God particle", and sacrifice the rest of us with him. Reason and common sense will tell you that the risks far outweigh any potential(as CERN physicists themselves say) benefits.
This quote from National Geographic exactly sums this "science" up: "That's the essence of experimental particle physics: You smash stuff together and see what other stuff comes out."
Find out more about that "stuff" below;
http://www.SaneScience.org/
http://www.LHCFacts.org
http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/anon1.htm
http://www.lhcdefense.org/
http://www.lhcconcerns.com
Popular Mechanics - "World's Biggest Science Project Aims to Unlock 'God Particle'" - http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/4216588.html"
Jesus Christ you fear-mongers really should take a basic science course, or i don't know, READ A BOOK !! (learn some actual physics) and at least try to rid yourself of at least a small percentage of your ignorance before you accuse others of such a digression. Saftey first... sure ; caution before curiosity, I'm all for it. That being said, COME UP WITH ONE COMPELLING ARGUMENT ON HOW LARGE PARTICLE COLIDERS WILL DESTROY THE EARTH and maybe just maybe, someone will listen. Until then for f''''s sakes please crawl into a hole and hibernate and yes i am angry.
Reply | Report Abuse | Link to thisF''' you =D, Exordium.
EDIT: the above comment was not intended for any one speicific post.
Reply | Report Abuse | Link to thismillion remember-this lab was started in texas in the 90s-was stopped after spending $900 million by jealous liberals
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Reply | Report Abuse | Link to thisSeptember 4, 2008 in Physics | 7 comments | Post a comment
How U.S. Researchers Are Making the Switch to the Large Hadron Collider
Remote operations means the move to Geneva is not always mandatory
By JR Minkel
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NEW LETTER TO SENATOR BARACK OBAMA
Laval, Canada, August 28, 2008
SENATOR OBAMA,
It is in adversity, I was going to say in darkness, that one recognizes true friends.
Energy of the Sixties tested, confronted by Todayss Energy crisis, what does Science hold for us in this field at the crossroad of the third millennium?
Each of us should express solidarity, according to his means.
My contribution, apparently futuristic, refers, Senator Obama, to an inexhaustible source of energy, which one should tame now.
In a book with limited publication, translated in English for the needs of the cause, entitled BILL A RI And There Was Light, addressed during his last American election campaign to President Bill Clinton who acknowledged having received it, I dared to tackle this subject.
Its like to say to you, Senator Obama, that in the exceptional circumstances in which we live today - in the point of view of energy - no exploration in the mid or long term, by the american expertise , of an additional source of energy, at the same time safe and profitable, should not be ruled out.
There is no witchcraft at all involved in all that, Mister Obama. In spite of my Ha�tian ascent and my carefully phrased remarks. It is undoubtedly so when a taboo should be broken through. A taboo of magnitude, Sir, I admit it. A scientific taboo, seldom encountered.
The taboo arises as a negative categorical imperative, affirms Roger Caillois.
It is not saying little. Especially when it is a question of adequately correcting the theory of Newton on light and colors.
However, at the dawn of the twenty first century, to denounce this taboo, to reverse it, should I say, what an asset! Moreover, at the same time the multiple taboos grow blurred which surround another phenomenon of the highest scientific range, the well known phenomenon under the abusive name of Black Holes, synthesis of light and colors. Indeed Newton, in good faith undoubtedly in his time, really reversed the interpretation of the phenomenon of light. He took the part for the whole ! So much and so well that today like yesterday, the visible appears so much more tempting. Physicists say it: ninety to ninety nine percent of the matter of the universe (Grosso Modo - said here roughly by Lucien BONNET - for more precisions see LINKS or GOOGLE ) is made up of a dark matter, invisible, which generates, propels and surrounds the visible, like the sea surrounds the continents. Scientists such as Stephen Hawking affirm it. The Hubble Telescope confirms it. But theoretical Optics is stagnant.
My intervention, here, Senator Obama, would mean that. It is possible to use another form of energy. By decoding the Black Matter.Without a play on words. Theoretically initially. While returning the elevator to Newton - without a play on words. By the Act which consists in making an AMENDMENT TO THE LAW OF NEWTON ON LIGHT AND COLORS.
Presently, why should we take the result instead of the cause?
Objectively and in a pragmatic way, how not focussing on the new synthesis?
Consequently, what a liberation !
At the threshold of the third millennium, let light live, invisible by synthesis, visible by analysis !
Synthesis and analysis are two wings of the same bird, the rythm of the universes heartbeat, tamed inside the infinitely small having mass. Successively contracted and deployed. In the benefit of humanity.
One small step for Man, one giant leap for Mankind - I also said myself - in BILL A RI and there was light !&
Unfortunate, yes, but how much a convenient Energy crisis if I dare say, which invites us to explore other avenues, other concepts and, therefore, other resources so far neglected.
Invitation to go from the invisible to the visible and vice versa. Taking advantage of the sequence of colorless and colored luminous speeds. In order to better understand the Universe. Where Law and Order prevail. Just like in Democracy !
Energetic formula with a unique character !
In the name of Science and Technology, vapor is being reverse !
A winning formula !
In The United States Of America.
By The United States Of America.
For The United States Of America and abroad !
With you today, Senator Obama, I repeat this sentence - since 1972 and 1978 - that is to say forty years old, but always, in my opinion, carrying the same message that I wish more and more positive for the years to come, in the third millennium, as I said since 1972 and on April 10, 1978, in a Letter to Doctor Carl Sagan:
On the cosmic scale as on the terrestrial scale, darkness or blackness forms an integral, sine qua non part, of color and light pocess.
Is it still broad daylight
in the shadow of the black sun?
Yours truly,
Lucien BONNET
you can success this experiment but at glance there is no one to see what will hapen in all over the world. the money which is invested in the project it's better usefull at development places. -- faiyaj shaikh
Reply | Report Abuse | Link to thisThe mad CERN ’s way.
Reply | Report Abuse | Link to thisIn 1906, Rutherford studied internal structure of atoms,
bombarding them with high energy a- particles.
This idea helped him understand the structure of atom.
But the clever Devil interfered and gave advice to physicists
to enlarge the target. Bomb them!
And physicist created huge cannon-accelerators of particles.
And they began to bomb micro particles in the vacuum, in hoping
to understand their inner structure. And they were surprised with
the results of this bombing. Several hundreds of completely new
strange particles appeared. They lived a very little time and do not
relate to our world. Our Earth needs its real constants of nature.
But this was forgotten.
What God carefully created, is destroyed in accelerators.
And they are proud of that. They say: we study the inner structure
of the particles. The clever and artful Devil is glad. He again has deceived man.
Physicist think, that an accelerator - is first of all the presence of huge energy.
And the Devil laughs. He knows, that an accelerator - is first of all the Vacuum.
But this, he has withheld from man.
He has not explained that the Vacuum is infinite and inexhaustible.
And in infinity there is contained an infinite variety of particles.
And by bombing the vacuum, one can find centaurs and sphinxes.
But my God, save us from their presence on Earth.
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Rutherford was right.
His followers are mistaken.
Why?
Imagine, that I want to plant a small apple- tree.
For this purpose I shall dig out a hole of 1 meter width and 1,20 m depth.
It is normal.
But if to plant a small apple- tree, I shall begin to dig
a base for a huge building (skyscraper),
or if to begin drill ground with 10 km. depth,
will you call me a normal man?
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Imagine a man who breaks watches on the wall.
And then he tries to understand the mechanism of the watches
by thrown cogwheels, springs and small screws.
Does he have many chances to succeed?
As many as the scientists have who aspire to understand
the inner structure of electron by breaking them into accelerators.
If not take into account the initial conditions of Genesis,
the fantasies of the scientists may be unlimited.
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The Nature works very economical.
For example, biologists know 100 ( hundred ) kinds of
amino acids. But only 20 ( twenty) kinds of amino acids
are suitable to produce molecules of protein, from which all
different cells created on our planet. What are about another
80 % of amino acids? They are dead end of evolution.
The physicists found many ( 1000 ) new elementary particles in
accelerators. But we need only one ( 1) electron and one (1 )
proton to create first atom, to begin to create the Nature.
All another elementary particles (mesons, muons , bosons, taus,
all their girlfriends - antiparticles, all quarks and antiquarks…etc)
are dead end of evolution.
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What was before - “ the big bang” or the vacuum ?
The physicists created “ Europe’s Large Hadron Colider “
Please, look at how our physicists made this accelerator.
They made the vacuum and after they generated a big reaction
between two colliding particles in some small imitation of the
“big bang”. They didn’t make this process in the reverse.
So, what was prior in the Universe: “ big bang” or vacuum?
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The Universe as whole is Vacuum, first of all.
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus.
http://www.socratus.com
http://www.wbabin.net
http://www.wbabin.net/comments/sadovnik.htm
http://www.wbabin.net/physics/sadovnik.pdf
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P.S.
Will CERN find the God - Particle?
Hawking bets CERN will not find the God Particle
http://www.physorg.com/news140161003.html
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