What bothers me is that there is still so much waste in the system as the deniers continue to say how Global Warming cult will kill economy.
Waste is endemic for sure Mr. Miles. The trick will be solving energy poverty while reducing waste in developed economies. That is no simple trick. Food waste is the one that bothers me the most. http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=wasted-food-equals-wasted-energy-10-10-03
re: food waste: our NYC neighborhood greenmarket now has compost bins for food scraps. Because of the rat issue, food scraps are then carted to a Staten Island composting site.
Anyone been to an airport lately and see the empty vans/rental shuttles circle, and circle and idle? So much waste. I'm not going to plug, but I did cover some car manufacturing and airport efficiency improvements, that focused not on warming, but savings. Promising- VW plant in Chatanooga is LEED platinum, a good start.
Dave, are white roofs always better? Even in cold climates?
Fred: depends on your objective. If you want the building warm in an Arctic winter: no. But if you want to mimic the reflectivity of snow: yes.
Can you explain more about your position, TheRealKamerman?
@TheRealKamerman Yes, the climate always is changing.
Rather than walking to an ice age we're running to one. Doesn't matter, we'll get there eventually.
@TheRealKamerman But we're tweaking it with our greenhouse gas emisisons
@TheRealKamerman Does this mean that we should not try to counteract it?
It can't be counteracted. Don't be so brash to think human intervention can thwart nature. The Earth laughs at people. We're just a pestilence that will be dealt with in time.
In the long run, you're right, Kamerman. But we have 7 billion people to think about for now.
@TheRealKamerman Mother Nature bats last for sure. Hence the extreme weather.
Bats last. I like that.
Yes, David great line
Dave is a good softball player ;)
The U.S. is actually on target to meet its 2009 CO2 reductions according to Copenhagen agreement.
I don't think we should be too encouraged by 2009 numbers. Not one of our better years.
Peter: Yes! Global recession plus natural gas have led to reductions. But that's not exactly what we hoped for
But the Earth's climate is not static, it is constantly changing. Temperatures have been warmer before, sea levels have been much higher.
Matt: Yes, temps have been higher. There were crocs in the Arctic. But there wasn't human civilization.
Global warming is now taking a real peak. How to stop it? Only planting trees won’t stop it. Also scientists think that due to change in the environment structure, the human race too will be changed.
It's amazing. Efficiency = reduced emissions and reduced cost (generally speaking)
What really counts the is the rate of change as compared to past climate events, we are at a faster rate today